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"niels" <nielsw@dadlnet.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
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> Nu har jeg kikket noget mere på det og der er stort set kun skrevet om
emnet
> fra 1965 og indtil 1985 hvor der fremkom et nogle studier som afviste
> effekten:
>
> Arch Dermatol 1984 Jan;120(1):48-51
>
>
> Failure of lysine in frequently recurrent herpes simplex infection.
> Treatment and prophylaxis.
>
> DiGiovanna JJ, Blank H.
>
> Lysine has been claimed to be effective in the treatment and prevention of
> episodes of recurrent herpes simplex (HS) infection. We carried out a
> double-blind, placebo-controlled trial of oral lysine hydrochloride
therapy
> (400 mg, three times a day) in a group of 21 patients in good general
health
> with a history of frequently recurring infection. Using our measures of
> episode frequency, duration, and severity, we were unable to detect any
> substantial benefit of lysine therapy either as a treatment for episodes
in
> progress or as a prophylactic drug for the prevention of recurrences.
> We conclude that it is unlikely that lysine improves frequently recurrent
HS
> infections in the majority of patients.
>
> Hvor de efter et blindforsøg konkludere at der ikke er nogen effekt af
> stoffet.
> Dine referencer stammer fra fabrikanten som gerne vil sælge Lysin og han
> glemmer behændigt at referere de senere kritiske arbejder. De første
studier
> er lavet på et tidspunkt hvor man ikke havde nogen rigtig behandling af
> herpes. I dag har vi nogle stoffer som specifikt virker direkte på virus
og
> hvor der slet ikke er tvivl om deres effektivitet. Disse stoffer har
reddet
> livet hos mange patienter hvor deres immunsystem er ødelagt og som før i
> tiden havde herpessår over store dele af kroppen. Der er ikke kun tale om
> lidt småherpes omkring munden eller kønsorganerne hos ellers sunde
> mennesker, som selv er i stand til at holde virus i skak, og på hvem
> medicinen blot forkorter ulemperne.
> Men som Mikkel skriver kan de gamle studier give ideer til nye forsøg med
at
> kombinere f.eks Lysin med de nye stoffer for at forbedre resultaterne, men
> det vil være uetisk at opfordre patienter til at æde Lysin fordi en
> fabrikant skriver det.
> Hilsen Niels
>
>
>
>
> > Når nu folk kun har positive oplevelser med det, hvorfor så ikke kigge
> lidt
> > dybere i anvendelses muligheder.
> >
> > Desuden er det ikke kun russisk afprøvet som der blev skrevet tidligere.
> >
> > Læs venligst herunder...
> > The Amino Acid Lysine Controls Herpes
> > Is it true that the amino acid called lysine, is good for herpes
> > outbreaks?
> > Yes. Herpes outbreaks are common in persons with AIDS.
Supplementation
> > with free-form lysine has shown to be beneficial in controlling herpes
> along
> > with a diet high in lysine and low in arginine. "This suggests that
> > physicians in a position to study the effect of lysine in herpes simplex
> > infections should do so. It appears to do no harm and may be a useful
> > therapeutic measure."
> >
> > "Tissue culture studies have demonstrated a beneficial effect on
viral
> > replication when the amino acid ratio of arginine to lysine favors
> arginine.
> > The opposite, preponderance of lysine to arginine, suppresses viral
> > replication and inhibits cytopathogenicity of herpes simplex virus."
> >
> > "L-Lysine appears to be an effective agent for reduction of
> occurrence,
> > severity and healing time for recurrent HSV infection."
> >
> >
> > What foods are high in lysine and low in arginine?
> >
> > Fish, chicken, beef, lamb, milk, cheese, beans, brewer's yeast, mung
> > bean sprouts and most fruits and vegetables have more lysine than
> arginine,
> > except for peas. Gelatin, chocolate, carob, coconut, oats, wholewheat
and,
> > white flour, peanuts, soybeans, and wheatgerm have more arginine than
> > lysine.
> >
> > What are Lysine's Method of Action?
> >
> > "Nine proteins have been identified in the enveloped herpes simplex
> > viron. In addition to the capsid proteins, the naked virions contain two
> > additional proteins(VI and VII). Protein VII is an arginine-rich protein
> of
> > the viral core. It is also known that the proteins synthesised by the
> herpes
> > simplex virus infected cells contain more arginine but less lysine,
> > methionine, phenylalanine, tryrosine, and isoleucine relative to leucine
> > than the proteins synthesised by unaffected cells.
> > L-lysine 390 mg. was given orally at the first indication of onset
of
> > herpetic oral lesions in eight patients and vulvar lesions in two
> patients,
> > with uniform rapid resolution of the lesions. This suggests that
> physicians
> > in a position to study the effect of lysine in herpes simplex infections
> > should do so. It appears to do no harm and may be a useful therapeutic
> > measure."
> > Dosages:
> > "The amount of lysine required to control herpes varied from case to
> > case but a typical dose to maintain remission was 500 mg daily and
active
> > herpes required 1 to 6 g between meals to induce healing."
> > REFERENCES:
> >
> > 1. Kagan, C. "Lysine Therapy for Herpes Simplex", The Lancet, 1:137
26
> > Jan 1974) 2. Griffith, R.S., "A Multicentered Study of Lysine Therapy in
> > Herpes simplex Infection", Dermatologica 156: 257-267 (1978)
> > 3. Griffith, R.S., "Success of L-Lysine Therapy in Frequently
> Recurrent
> > Herpes simplex Infection", Dermatologica 175: 183-190 (1987)
> > 4. Olshevsky, V., Becher, V. Virology, 1970, 40, 948.
> > 5. Kaplan, A.S., Shimano, H., Ben-Porat, T. ibid. p.90.
> >
> > "Mikkel Gybel Jensen" <mgj@tiscali.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
> > news:a9p0gs$325$1@sunsite.dk...
> > > "Rar Morfar" <runwest@post6.tele.dk> wrote in message
> > > news:3cbff936$0$78766$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk...
> > > > Så har du vidst ikke læst om folks erfaringer med det på
> > >
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> > >
> > > Hvad skal vi så bruge det til? min gamle farfar mente også, at
> > > det var fordi han røg 40 cigaretter om dagen og drak en skarp til
> > > hvert måltid, at han blev 90 år...
> > >
> > > Anekdoter er relativt uinteressante, hvis man skal vise, at et
> > > produkt virker.
> > >
> > > Mikkel
> > > --
> > > Mikkel Gybel Jensen, Stud. scient.
> > >
http://www.cmrc.dk ;
http://www.ku.dk
> > >
http://home.worldonline.dk/~mgj
> > > Utrænet? Kig på adressen ovenfor...
> > >
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