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Taliban henretter 7-årig 'spion'...
Fra : /John


Dato : 09-06-10 13:52

Taliban nøjes ikke med at sprænge pigeskoler i luften, kaste syre i hovedet
på skolepiger, samt gemme sig bag kvinder og børn og bagefter bebrejde USA
for de civile ofre.

"Taliban militants are increasingly using civilians as "human shields" as
they battle against a joint Afghan-Nato offensive, an Afghan general has
said ... his soldiers had seen Taliban fighters placing women and children
on the roofs of buildings and firing from behind them":
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8519507.stm

Nu myrder man åbenbart også afghanernes børn for yderligere at terrorisere
befolkningen.

"En syvårig dreng fra Afghanistans Helmandprovins er blevet henrettet af
talibanbevægelsen, der beskyldte ham for at være spion for regeringen":
http://www.information.dk/telegram/235846

Hvordan kan nogen som helst støtte disse tyranner?

John



 
 
Kim Larsen \(på AltB~ (09-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Kim Larsen \(på AltB~


Dato : 09-06-10 14:20

"/John" <nogen@pladderballe.ok> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4c0f8e5b$0$56789$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk
> Taliban nøjes ikke med at sprænge pigeskoler i luften, kaste syre i
> hovedet på skolepiger, samt gemme sig bag kvinder og børn og bagefter
> bebrejde USA for de civile ofre.
>
> "Taliban militants are increasingly using civilians as "human
> shields" as they battle against a joint Afghan-Nato offensive, an
> Afghan general has said ... his soldiers had seen Taliban fighters
> placing women and children on the roofs of buildings and firing from
> behind them": http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8519507.stm
>
> Nu myrder man åbenbart også afghanernes børn for yderligere at
> terrorisere befolkningen.
>
> "En syvårig dreng fra Afghanistans Helmandprovins er blevet henrettet
> af talibanbevægelsen, der beskyldte ham for at være spion for
> regeringen": http://www.information.dk/telegram/235846
>
> Hvordan kan nogen som helst støtte disse tyranner?

Det er lige så godt som at USA´s grænsevagter skyder og dræber en 16-årig
mexicansk dreng på den mexicanske sig af grænsen mellem USA og Mexico. Nu
hvor fordømmelserne her i dk.politik er harme over for mordet på den 7-årige
dreng, så regner jeg da helt bestemt med at fordømmelserne, her i
dk.politik, af mordet på den 16-årige dreng er lige så stærke rettet imod
USA som har skudt ind over grænsen til et andet land, en handling som
nødvendigvis må betegnes som en aggression mod Mexico.

--
Kim Larsen (kun på en af udbyderne: AltBinaries.com eller Datemas.de)
Socialist, republikaner, atomkraftmodstander og EU-modstander
Tag et kig på: http://dokusiden.itgo.com/ground69.htm
Genstart Danmark, stem socialistisk. E-mail: kl2607@gmail.com



S.A.Thomsen (09-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : S.A.Thomsen


Dato : 09-06-10 14:34

On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:20:06 +0200, Kim Larsen (på AltBinaries.com eller
Datemas.de) wrote:

>> "En syvårig dreng fra Afghanistans Helmandprovins er blevet henrettet
>> af talibanbevægelsen, der beskyldte ham for at være spion for
>> regeringen": http://www.information.dk/telegram/235846
>>
>> Hvordan kan nogen som helst støtte disse tyranner?
>
> Det er lige så godt som at USA´s.................

Socialister giver mig kvalme.

Kim Larsen \(på AltB~ (09-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Kim Larsen \(på AltB~


Dato : 09-06-10 14:47

"S.A.Thomsen" <s_a_thomsen@yahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:vit68f636o5w$.xcta2lsldegn$.dlg@40tude.net
> On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:20:06 +0200, Kim Larsen (på AltBinaries.com
> eller Datemas.de) wrote:
>
>>> "En syvårig dreng fra Afghanistans Helmandprovins er blevet
>>> henrettet af talibanbevægelsen, der beskyldte ham for at være spion
>>> for regeringen": http://www.information.dk/telegram/235846
>>>
>>> Hvordan kan nogen som helst støtte disse tyranner?
>>
>> Det er lige så godt som at USA´s.................
>
> Socialister giver mig kvalme.

Det giver konservativ bistandsbums som dig også mig. Du manglede for resten
et suk, smileyen var der dog.

--
Kim Larsen (kun på en af udbyderne: AltBinaries.com eller Datemas.de)
Socialist, republikaner, atomkraftmodstander og EU-modstander
Tag et kig på: http://dokusiden.itgo.com/ground69.htm
Genstart Danmark, stem socialistisk. E-mail: kl2607@gmail.com



Martin Larsen (09-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Martin Larsen


Dato : 09-06-10 14:38

Kim Larsen (på AltBinaries.com eller Datemas.de) wrote:
> "/John" <nogen@pladderballe.ok> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:4c0f8e5b$0$56789$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk
>> Taliban nøjes ikke med at sprænge pigeskoler i luften, kaste syre i
>> hovedet på skolepiger, samt gemme sig bag kvinder og børn og bagefter
>> bebrejde USA for de civile ofre.
>>
>> "Taliban militants are increasingly using civilians as "human
>> shields" as they battle against a joint Afghan-Nato offensive, an
>> Afghan general has said ... his soldiers had seen Taliban fighters
>> placing women and children on the roofs of buildings and firing from
>> behind them": http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8519507.stm
>>
>> Nu myrder man åbenbart også afghanernes børn for yderligere at
>> terrorisere befolkningen.
>>
>> "En syvårig dreng fra Afghanistans Helmandprovins er blevet henrettet
>> af talibanbevægelsen, der beskyldte ham for at være spion for
>> regeringen": http://www.information.dk/telegram/235846
>>
>> Hvordan kan nogen som helst støtte disse tyranner?
>
> Det er lige så godt

Det kan Kimse

Bo Warming (09-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Bo Warming


Dato : 09-06-10 15:22

On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:37:43 +0200, Martin Larsen
<mlarsen@post7.tele.dk> wrote:

>Kim Larsen (på AltBinaries.com eller Datemas.de) wrote:
>> "/John" <nogen@pladderballe.ok> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:4c0f8e5b$0$56789$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk
>>> Taliban nøjes ikke med at sprænge pigeskoler i luften, kaste syre i
>>> hovedet på skolepiger, samt gemme sig bag kvinder og børn og bagefter
>>> bebrejde USA for de civile ofre.
>>>
>>> "Taliban militants are increasingly using civilians as "human
>>> shields" as they battle against a joint Afghan-Nato offensive, an
>>> Afghan general has said ... his soldiers had seen Taliban fighters
>>> placing women and children on the roofs of buildings and firing from
>>> behind them": http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8519507.stm
>>>
>>> Nu myrder man åbenbart også afghanernes børn for yderligere at
>>> terrorisere befolkningen.
>>>
>>> "En syvårig dreng fra Afghanistans Helmandprovins er blevet henrettet
>>> af talibanbevægelsen, der beskyldte ham for at være spion for
>>> regeringen": http://www.information.dk/telegram/235846
>>>
>>> Hvordan kan nogen som helst støtte disse tyranner?
>>
>> Det er lige så godt
>
>Det kan Kimse


Mine to år som FN-ansat i Kabul belærte mig at een ting kan afghanere,
krig

og så er aflivning der er generalprofylakse mod spionage ikke
tyrannisk men overlevelsesnødvendig

Drop dømmesyge

SE og lær bl.a. at muslimer kan ikke integreres

Patruljen (09-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 09-06-10 07:50

On 9 Jun., 15:20, "Kim Larsen \(p AltBinaries.com eller Datemas.de\)"
<kl2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "/John" <no...@pladderballe.ok> skrev i en meddelelsenews:4c0f8e5b$0$56789$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk
>
>
>
>
>
> > Taliban n jes ikke med at spr nge pigeskoler i luften, kaste syre i
> > hovedet p skolepiger, samt gemme sig bag kvinder og b rn og bagefter
> > bebrejde USA for de civile ofre.
>
> > "Taliban militants are increasingly using civilians as "human
> > shields" as they battle against a joint Afghan-Nato offensive, an
> > Afghan general has said ... his soldiers had seen Taliban fighters
> > placing women and children on the roofs of buildings and firing from
> > behind them":http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8519507.stm
>
> > Nu myrder man benbart ogs afghanernes b rn for yderligere at
> > terrorisere befolkningen.
>
> > "En syv rig dreng fra Afghanistans Helmandprovins er blevet henrettet
> > af talibanbev gelsen, der beskyldte ham for at v re spion for
> > regeringen":http://www.information.dk/telegram/235846
>
> > Hvordan kan nogen som helst st tte disse tyranner?
>
> Det er lige s godt som at USA s gr nsevagter skyder og dr ber en 16- rig
> mexicansk dreng p den mexicanske sig af gr nsen mellem USA og Mexico. Nu
> hvor ford mmelserne her i dk.politik er harme over for mordet p den 7- rige
> dreng, s regner jeg da helt bestemt med at ford mmelserne, her i
> dk.politik, af mordet p den 16- rige dreng er lige s st rke rettet imod
> USA som har skudt ind over gr nsen til et andet land, en handling som
> n dvendigvis m betegnes som en aggression mod Mexico.


Det er naturligvis noget andet - ganske vist en henrettelse. Men, men
- men. Ignorancen er så tyk på dk.politik, at man kan skære tykke
spareribs ud af den og bespise en hel koloni med sultne unger -

Det er ikke interessant for højredrengene om mindreårige mister livet.
Slet ikke -
Det som er spændende for ignoranterne er hvem som har gjort det.

Jeg satte dénne i og ventede lidt spændt på reaktionerne. Det kom blot
en - som var fra Bo Warming.

Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008, after a
demonstration against the construction of the separation barrier in
the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the prosecution indicted the
border police officer involved with negligent manslaughter.


The boy, Ahmed Musa, of the village of Ni'ilin, west of Ramallah, was
killed after clashes erupted between Israeli security forces and
residents who protested against the construction of the separation
barrier on their lands. Witnesses to the incident told researchers of
human rights groups B’Tselem and Yesh Din that Musa was struck by a
bullet fired by the Israeli security forces. The doctors in the
Ramallah hospital where Musa was treated said he was killed from a
bullet injury to his head.


After B’Tselem and Yesh Din appealed to the authorities, the Judea and
Samaria police started an investigation. An IDF-Border Police
operational debriefing concluded that the boy's death was caused by
Israeli fire. In his interrogation, the police officer suspected of
shooting Musa admitted he fired some warning shots to scare off the
demonstrators. In February, the prosecution announced the suspect will
be indicted with negligent manslaughter, pending a hearing. In the
hearing, the defendant's claims were rejected, and today charges were
pressed against him.


;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
From the year 2001 until today, human rights group B’Tselem has
handled 35 cases of Palestinians who were injured or killed from
bullets fired by police officers and border police officers. Only 16
of the cases were investigated, and of those, only two cases resulted
in indictments. One of the two is the case of Ahmed Musa.
http://www.btselem.org/English/Press_Releases/20100525.asp



> --
> Kim Larsen (kun p en af udbyderne: AltBinaries.com eller Datemas.de)
> Socialist, republikaner, atomkraftmodstander og EU-modstander
> Tag et kig p :http://dokusiden.itgo.com/ground69.htm
> Genstart Danmark, stem socialistisk. E-mail: kl2...@gmail.com-

Ukendt (09-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Ukendt


Dato : 09-06-10 16:29

"Patruljen" <Patruljen@yahoo.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

> Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008, after a
> demonstration against the construction of the separation barrier in
> the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the prosecution indicted the
> border police officer involved with negligent manslaughter.

Skel det forstås derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske myndigheder
sigter en af deres egne for at have begået en forbrydelse ?



/John (09-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : /John


Dato : 09-06-10 16:56

"Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> skrev i en meddelelse

> Skel det forstås derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske myndigheder
> sigter en af deres egne for at have begået en forbrydelse ?

Denne tråd handler om Talibans gerninger.

I stedet for at forsøge at afspore en debat, kan Patruljen og ligesindede
starte deres egen tråd hvis de ønsker at diskutere fx Israel.

Patruljen m fl (ingen nævnt, ingen glemt..) er desårsag (evindelige forsøg
på at afspore en debat) forlængst havnet i den sorte gryde her.

John



Patruljen (12-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 12-06-10 07:55

On 12 Jun., 15:38, "\"@'" <1...@iindnaavalid.invavvlid> wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:34:43 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
>
>
>
>
>
> <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
> >On 10 Jun., 22:29, "Michael Weber" <mich...@michaelweber.invalid>
> >wrote:
> >> "@' wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:08:25 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
> >> > <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>
> >> >> On 10 Jun., 18:18, "\"@'" <1...@iindnaavalid.invavvlid> wrote:
> >> >>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
>
> >> >>> <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
> >> >>>> On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
> >> >>>>> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en
> >> >>>>> meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> >> > ensidig kritik af et land som forsvarer sine civile mod daglige
> >> > raketangreb kritiseres, men ikke noget der bare ligner kritik af dem
> >> > der affyrer raketterne!!!!!
>
> >> > sådanne organisationer har intet med menneskerettigheder at gøre, de
> >> > fører politik og intet andet
>
> >> Mage til ævl skal man ikke lede længe efter
>
> >Ja. Det er svært at tage alvorligt. Det eneste, som er tydeligt her er
> >hvilken respekt, der er tilstede for menneskerettigheder.
>
> netop
>
> når det gælder israelernes menneskerettigheder så er respekten
> temmelig fraværende

Er det nu også rigtigt @ eller leder du bare efter en grund til at
ignorere alt, som du ikke bryder dig om?

Du læste ikke dette punkt i BT`Selems målbeskrivelse, inden du
begyndte beskydningen?

Israeli settlement land expropriation, settler violence and attacks on
Israeli civilians by Palestinian militants.

Gaza Strip - The scope of Israeli control, economic and social
decline, sonic booms, access restrictions, the firing of Qassam
rockets.

Use of force - beating and abuse, use of firearms and human shields.

Violations by Palestinians - attacks on civilians, harm to suspected
collaborators, death penalty in the Palestinian Authority.

????

http://www.btselem.org/English/Israeli_Civilians/Qassam_missiles.asp

Prøv at kik på deres webside, inden du lukker alt detder fnidder du ??

> --
> Si vis pacem - para bellum-

Patruljen (09-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 09-06-10 13:56

On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008, after a
> > demonstration against the construction of the separation barrier in
> > the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the prosecution indicted the
> > border police officer involved with negligent manslaughter.
>
> Skel det forstås derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske myndigheder
> sigter en af deres egne for at have begået en forbrydelse ?

Nope. Hvis jeg har indvendinger, så svarer de nogenlunde til
BT`Selems.

"From the year 2001 until today, human rights group B’Tselem has
handled 35 cases of Palestinians who were injured or killed from
bullets fired by police officers and border police officers. Only 16
of the cases were investigated, and of those, only two cases resulted
in indictments. One of the two is the case of Ahmed Musa."

\"@' (10-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : \"@'


Dato : 10-06-10 17:18

On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
<Patruljen@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
>> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008, after a
>> > demonstration against the construction of the separation barrier in
>> > the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the prosecution indicted the
>> > border police officer involved with negligent manslaughter.
>>
>> Skel det forstås derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske myndigheder
>> sigter en af deres egne for at have begået en forbrydelse ?
>
>Nope. Hvis jeg har indvendinger, så svarer de nogenlunde til
>BT`Selems.
>
>"From the year 2001 until today, human rights group B’Tselem has
>handled 35 cases of Palestinians who were injured or killed from
>bullets fired by police officers and border police officers. Only 16
>of the cases were investigated, and of those, only two cases resulted
>in indictments. One of the two is the case of Ahmed Musa."


hvor mange sager har samme organisation "handled" som omhandler
personer i Gaza som har affyret raketter mod israelske civilister ?

mit gæt ikke en eneste

en så useriøs organisation kan man kun foragte


--
Si vis pacem - para bellum

Ukendt (10-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Ukendt


Dato : 10-06-10 23:46

"Patruljen" <Patruljen@yahoo.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:67275d0e-9046-4a7c-a3ef-14c5273864ed@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
> > "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en
> > meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008, after a
> > > demonstration against the construction of the separation barrier in
> > > the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the prosecution indicted the
> > > border police officer involved with negligent manslaughter.
> >
> > Skel det forstås derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske
> > myndigheder
> > sigter en af deres egne for at have begået en forbrydelse ?
>
> Nope. Hvis jeg har indvendinger, så svarer de nogenlunde til
> BT`Selems.
>
> "From the year 2001 until today, human rights group B’Tselem has
> handled 35 cases of Palestinians who were injured or killed from
> bullets fired by police officers and border police officers. Only 16
> of the cases were investigated, and of those, only two cases resulted
> in indictments. One of the two is the case of Ahmed Musa."

Jamen hvis du deraf konkluderer at staten Israel er på niveu med Taleban, så
må det jo logisk følge at du mener den danske stat tilsvarende er på niveu
med Taleban, idet det danske politi jo også dræber eller skader personer i
Danmark med forskellige våben - 49 tilfælde i perioden 1993-2002.



Patruljen (09-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 09-06-10 14:00

On 9 Jun., 17:55, "/John" <no...@pladderballe.ok> wrote:
> "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
>
> > Skel det forst s derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske myndigheder
> > sigter en af deres egne for at have beg et en forbrydelse ?
>
> Denne tr d handler om Talibans gerninger.
>
> I stedet for at fors ge at afspore en debat, kan Patruljen og ligesindede
> starte deres egen tr d hvis de nsker at diskutere fx Israel.
>
> Patruljen m fl (ingen n vnt, ingen glemt..) er des rsag (evindelige fors g
> p at afspore en debat) forl ngst havnet i den sorte gryde her.

Der er ingen afsporing. Der er en konstatering af, at højredrengene
her i gruppen er flintrende ligeglade med hvorvist børn dræbes, hvis
bare det er rollemodellerne, der er ansvarlige.

Du skal ikke bilde mig ind, at du er bekymret for børns skæbner. Du er
fuldstændigt ligeglad -
Det som interesserer dig, er om det er muslimer som kan bebrejdes. I
givet fald er du parat til at jamre dig gennen 595 indlæg om hvor
slemt og stygt den slags er.

Hvis israelerne dræber 300 unger og lemlæster 1500 andre, så er det
fint med dig - især hvis ungerne er muslimer.


> John


Patruljen (10-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 10-06-10 13:08

On 10 Jun., 18:18, "\"@'" <1...@iindnaavalid.invavvlid> wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
>
>
>
>
>
> <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
> >On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
> >> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008, after a
> >> > demonstration against the construction of the separation barrier in
> >> > the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the prosecution indicted the
> >> > border police officer involved with negligent manslaughter.
>
> >> Skel det forstås derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske myndigheder
> >> sigter en af deres egne for at have begået en forbrydelse ?
>
> >Nope. Hvis jeg har indvendinger, så svarer de nogenlunde til
> >BT`Selems.
>
> >"From the year 2001 until today, human rights group B’Tselem has
> >handled 35 cases of Palestinians who were injured or killed from
> >bullets fired by police officers and border police officers. Only 16
> >of the cases were investigated, and of those, only two cases resulted
> >in indictments. One of the two is the case of Ahmed Musa."
>
> hvor mange sager har samme organisation "handled" som omhandler
> personer i Gaza som har affyret raketter mod israelske civilister ?
>
> mit gæt  ikke en eneste
>
> en så useriøs organisation kan man kun foragte

Ja. Naturligvis må du foragte menneskerettighedsorganisationer. Det er
da klart -

> --
> Si vis pacem - para bellum-

\"@' (10-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : \"@'


Dato : 10-06-10 21:30

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:08:25 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
<Patruljen@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>On 10 Jun., 18:18, "\"@'" <1...@iindnaavalid.invavvlid> wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>> >On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
>> >> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008, after a
>> >> > demonstration against the construction of the separation barrier in
>> >> > the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the prosecution indicted the
>> >> > border police officer involved with negligent manslaughter.
>>
>> >> Skel det forstås derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske myndigheder
>> >> sigter en af deres egne for at have begået en forbrydelse ?
>>
>> >Nope. Hvis jeg har indvendinger, så svarer de nogenlunde til
>> >BT`Selems.
>>
>> >"From the year 2001 until today, human rights group B’Tselem has
>> >handled 35 cases of Palestinians who were injured or killed from
>> >bullets fired by police officers and border police officers. Only 16
>> >of the cases were investigated, and of those, only two cases resulted
>> >in indictments. One of the two is the case of Ahmed Musa."
>>
>> hvor mange sager har samme organisation "handled" som omhandler
>> personer i Gaza som har affyret raketter mod israelske civilister ?
>>
>> mit gæt  ikke en eneste
>>
>> en så useriøs organisation kan man kun foragte
>
>Ja. Naturligvis må du foragte menneskerettighedsorganisationer. Det er
>da klart -

nådada,

den traf vist,

ensidig kritik af et land som forsvarer sine civile mod daglige
raketangreb kritiseres, men ikke noget der bare ligner kritik af dem
der affyrer raketterne!!!!!

sådanne organisationer har intet med menneskerettigheder at gøre, de
fører politik og intet andet

--
Si vis pacem - para bellum

Michael Weber (10-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Michael Weber


Dato : 10-06-10 21:30

"@' wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:08:25 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
> <Patruljen@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>
>> On 10 Jun., 18:18, "\"@'" <1...@iindnaavalid.invavvlid> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>>>> On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
>>>>> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en
>>>>> meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>>> Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008,
>>>>>> after a demonstration against the construction of the separation
>>>>>> barrier in the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the
>>>>>> prosecution indicted the border police officer involved with
>>>>>> negligent manslaughter.
>>>
>>>>> Skel det forstås derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske
>>>>> myndigheder
>>>>> sigter en af deres egne for at have begået en forbrydelse ?
>>>
>>>> Nope. Hvis jeg har indvendinger, så svarer de nogenlunde til
>>>> BT`Selems.
>>>
>>>> "From the year 2001 until today, human rights group B'Tselem has
>>>> handled 35 cases of Palestinians who were injured or killed from
>>>> bullets fired by police officers and border police officers. Only
>>>> 16 of the cases were investigated, and of those, only two cases
>>>> resulted in indictments. One of the two is the case of Ahmed Musa."
>>>
>>> hvor mange sager har samme organisation "handled" som omhandler
>>> personer i Gaza som har affyret raketter mod israelske civilister ?
>>>
>>> mit gæt ikke en eneste
>>>
>>> en så useriøs organisation kan man kun foragte
>>
>> Ja. Naturligvis må du foragte menneskerettighedsorganisationer. Det
>> er da klart -
>
> nådada,
>
> den traf vist,
>
> ensidig kritik af et land som forsvarer sine civile mod daglige
> raketangreb kritiseres, men ikke noget der bare ligner kritik af dem
> der affyrer raketterne!!!!!
>
> sådanne organisationer har intet med menneskerettigheder at gøre, de
> fører politik og intet andet


Mage til ævl skal man ikke lede længe efter i d.p.


--
Ulige skal behandles ulige, for at være lige.
http://www.dubistterrorist.de/
Die Schöne neue Welt der Überwachung:
http://www.spiegel.de/media/0,4906,15385,00.swf

\"@' (12-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : \"@'


Dato : 12-06-10 14:33

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:29:30 +0200, "Michael Weber"
<michael@michaelweber.invalid> wrote:

>"@' wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:08:25 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
>> <Patruljen@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10 Jun., 18:18, "\"@'" <1...@iindnaavalid.invavvlid> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>>>>> On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
>>>>>> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en
>>>>>> meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>>>> Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008,
>>>>>>> after a demonstration against the construction of the separation
>>>>>>> barrier in the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the
>>>>>>> prosecution indicted the border police officer involved with
>>>>>>> negligent manslaughter.
>>>>
>>>>>> Skel det forstås derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske
>>>>>> myndigheder
>>>>>> sigter en af deres egne for at have begået en forbrydelse ?
>>>>
>>>>> Nope. Hvis jeg har indvendinger, så svarer de nogenlunde til
>>>>> BT`Selems.
>>>>
>>>>> "From the year 2001 until today, human rights group B'Tselem has
>>>>> handled 35 cases of Palestinians who were injured or killed from
>>>>> bullets fired by police officers and border police officers. Only
>>>>> 16 of the cases were investigated, and of those, only two cases
>>>>> resulted in indictments. One of the two is the case of Ahmed Musa."
>>>>
>>>> hvor mange sager har samme organisation "handled" som omhandler
>>>> personer i Gaza som har affyret raketter mod israelske civilister ?
>>>>
>>>> mit gæt ikke en eneste
>>>>
>>>> en så useriøs organisation kan man kun foragte
>>>
>>> Ja. Naturligvis må du foragte menneskerettighedsorganisationer. Det
>>> er da klart -
>>
>> nådada,
>>
>> den traf vist,
>>
>> ensidig kritik af et land som forsvarer sine civile mod daglige
>> raketangreb kritiseres, men ikke noget der bare ligner kritik af dem
>> der affyrer raketterne!!!!!
>>
>> sådanne organisationer har intet med menneskerettigheder at gøre, de
>> fører politik og intet andet
>
>
>Mage til ævl skal man ikke lede længe efter

netop

det er udelukkende ævl sådanne enøjede populistiske organisationer
lukker ud
¨

--
Si vis pacem - para bellum

Patruljen (10-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 10-06-10 14:35

On 10 Jun., 22:29, "Michael Weber" <mich...@michaelweber.invalid>
wrote:
> "@' wrote:
> > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:08:25 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
> > <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>
> >> On 10 Jun., 18:18, "\"@'" <1...@iindnaavalid.invavvlid> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
>
> >>> <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
> >>>> On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
> >>>>> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en
> >>>>> meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>>> Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008,
> >>>>>> after a demonstration against the construction of the separation
> >>>>>> barrier in the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the
> >>>>>> prosecution indicted the border police officer involved with
> >>>>>> negligent manslaughter.
>
> >>>>> Skel det forstås derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske
> >>>>> myndigheder
> >>>>> sigter en af deres egne for at have begået en forbrydelse ?
>
> >>>> Nope. Hvis jeg har indvendinger, så svarer de nogenlunde til
> >>>> BT`Selems.
>
> >>>> "From the year 2001 until today, human rights group B'Tselem has
> >>>> handled 35 cases of Palestinians who were injured or killed from
> >>>> bullets fired by police officers and border police officers. Only
> >>>> 16 of the cases were investigated, and of those, only two cases
> >>>> resulted in indictments. One of the two is the case of Ahmed Musa."
>
> >>> hvor mange sager har samme organisation "handled" som omhandler
> >>> personer i Gaza som har affyret raketter mod israelske civilister ?
>
> >>> mit gæt ikke en eneste
>
> >>> en så useriøs organisation kan man kun foragte
>
> >> Ja. Naturligvis må du foragte menneskerettighedsorganisationer. Det
> >> er da klart -
>
> > nådada,
>
> > den traf vist,
>
> > ensidig kritik af et land som forsvarer sine civile mod daglige
> > raketangreb kritiseres, men ikke noget der bare ligner kritik af dem
> > der affyrer raketterne!!!!!
>
> > sådanne organisationer har intet med menneskerettigheder at gøre, de
> > fører politik og intet andet
>
> Mage til ævl skal man ikke lede længe efter i d.p.

Ja. Det er svært at tage alvorligt. Det eneste, som er tydeligt her er
hvilken respekt, der er tilstede for menneskerettigheder. Pånær -
naturligvis - retten til at tegne små perfide tegneserier.

> --
> Ulige skal behandles ulige, for at være lige.http://www.dubistterrorist..de/
> Die Schöne neue Welt der Überwachung:http://www.spiegel.de/media/0,4906,15385,00.swf- Skjul tekst i anførselstegn -
>
> - Vis tekst i anførselstegn -


\"@' (12-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : \"@'


Dato : 12-06-10 14:38

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:34:43 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
<Patruljen@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>On 10 Jun., 22:29, "Michael Weber" <mich...@michaelweber.invalid>
>wrote:
>> "@' wrote:
>> > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:08:25 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
>> > <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>>
>> >> On 10 Jun., 18:18, "\"@'" <1...@iindnaavalid.invavvlid> wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
>>
>> >>> <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>> >>>> On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
>> >>>>> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en
>> >>>>> meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

>> > ensidig kritik af et land som forsvarer sine civile mod daglige
>> > raketangreb kritiseres, men ikke noget der bare ligner kritik af dem
>> > der affyrer raketterne!!!!!
>>
>> > sådanne organisationer har intet med menneskerettigheder at gøre, de
>> > fører politik og intet andet
>>
>> Mage til ævl skal man ikke lede længe efter
>
>Ja. Det er svært at tage alvorligt. Det eneste, som er tydeligt her er
>hvilken respekt, der er tilstede for menneskerettigheder.


netop

når det gælder israelernes menneskerettigheder så er respekten
temmelig fraværende



--
Si vis pacem - para bellum

. (10-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : .


Dato : 10-06-10 17:29

On 11 Jun., 00:46, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en meddelelsenews:67275d0e-9046-4a7c-a3ef-14c5273864ed@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en
> > > meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008, after a
> > > > demonstration against the construction of the separation barrier in
> > > > the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the prosecution indicted the
> > > > border police officer involved with negligent manslaughter.
>
> > > Skel det forst s derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske
> > > myndigheder
> > > sigter en af deres egne for at have beg et en forbrydelse ?
>
> > Nope. Hvis jeg har indvendinger, s svarer de nogenlunde til
> > BT`Selems.
>
> > "From the year 2001 until today, human rights group B Tselem has
> > handled 35 cases of Palestinians who were injured or killed from
> > bullets fired by police officers and border police officers. Only 16
> > of the cases were investigated, and of those, only two cases resulted
> > in indictments. One of the two is the case of Ahmed Musa."
>
> Jamen hvis du deraf konkluderer at staten Israel er p niveu med Taleban, s
> m det jo logisk f lge at du mener den danske stat tilsvarende er p niveu
> med Taleban, idet det danske politi jo ogs dr ber eller skader personer i
> Danmark med forskellige v ben - 49 tilf lde i perioden 1993-2002.-

Har jeg skrevet at Israel er på niveau med Taliban. Nej vel -
Så hvorfor beskæftige dit lille hoved med den slags tankespind ?

Måske hjælper det dig derhen, at du så er behageligt fritaget for at
tænke over, hvad jeg egentlig skrev - Bare et kvalificeret gæt.

Patruljen (12-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 12-06-10 07:50

On 12 Jun., 15:32, "\"@'" <1...@iindnaavalid.invavvlid> wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:29:30 +0200, "Michael Weber"
>
>
>
>
>
> <mich...@michaelweber.invalid> wrote:
> >"@' wrote:
> >> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:08:25 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
> >> <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
>
> >>> On 10 Jun., 18:18, "\"@'" <1...@iindnaavalid.invavvlid> wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT), Patruljen
>
> >>>> <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote:
> >>>>> On 9 Jun., 17:29, "Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" <cafn*mail.dk> wrote:
> >>>>>> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> skrev i en
> >>>>>> meddelelsenews:4925c070-f3b0-4a2d-bfee-c10a53f06b3d@k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>>>> Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008,
> >>>>>>> after a demonstration against the construction of the separation
> >>>>>>> barrier in the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the
> >>>>>>> prosecution indicted the border police officer involved with
> >>>>>>> negligent manslaughter.
>
> >>>>>> Skel det forst s derhen at du er utilfreds med at de Israelske
> >>>>>> myndigheder
> >>>>>> sigter en af deres egne for at have beg et en forbrydelse ?
>
> >>>>> Nope. Hvis jeg har indvendinger, s svarer de nogenlunde til
> >>>>> BT`Selems.
>
> >>>>> "From the year 2001 until today, human rights group B'Tselem has
> >>>>> handled 35 cases of Palestinians who were injured or killed from
> >>>>> bullets fired by police officers and border police officers. Only
> >>>>> 16 of the cases were investigated, and of those, only two cases
> >>>>> resulted in indictments. One of the two is the case of Ahmed Musa."
>
> >>>> hvor mange sager har samme organisation "handled" som omhandler
> >>>> personer i Gaza som har affyret raketter mod israelske civilister ?
>
> >>>> mit g t ikke en eneste
>
> >>>> en s useri s organisation kan man kun foragte
>
> >>> Ja. Naturligvis m du foragte menneskerettighedsorganisationer. Det
> >>> er da klart -
>
> >> n dada,
>
> >> den traf vist,
>
> >> ensidig kritik af et land som forsvarer sine civile mod daglige
> >> raketangreb kritiseres, men ikke noget der bare ligner kritik af dem
> >> der affyrer raketterne!!!!!
>
> >> s danne organisationer har intet med menneskerettigheder at g re, de
> >> f rer politik og intet andet
>
> >Mage til vl skal man ikke lede l nge efter
>
> netop

Mon det nu også er det, som Weber mener, eller må du lige vride lidt
på tangenterne - der.
Ja. Det var ikke et spørgsmål -

> det er udelukkende vl sådanne en jede populistiske organisationer
> lukker ud

Du er afgjort ikke dygtig til at undersøge dine holdninger. Lad os
lige kikke lidt på facts, og indlede med denn helt centrale statemen;
" help create a human rights culture in Israel."[1]


B'Tselem (Hebrew: בצלם‎, "in the image of", as in Genesis 1:27) is an
Israeli non-governmental organization (NGO). It calls itself "The
Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied
Territories". The group was founded on February 3, 1989 by a group of
prominent Israeli public figures, including lawyers, academics,
journalists, and members of the Knesset.[1]

B'Tselem's stated goals are "to document and educate the Israeli
public and policymakers about human rights violations in the Occupied
Territories, combat the phenomenon of denial prevalent among the
Israeli public, and help create a human rights culture in Israel".[1]
In December 1989 the organization received the Carter-Menil Human
Rights Prize.[2][3] Its executive director is Jessica Montell.[4]

Focus "acts primarily to change Israeli policy in the Occupied
Territories and ensure that its government, which rules the Occupied
Territories, protects the human rights of residents there and complies
with its obligations under international law."[1]
Mission "to document and educate the Israeli public and policymakers
about human rights violations in the Occupied Territories, combat the
phenomenon of denial prevalent among the Israeli public, and help
create a human rights culture in Israel."[1]


B'Tselem was founded on February 3, 1989 by a group of prominent
Israeli public figures, including lawyers, academics, journalists, and
members of the Knesset.[1] B'Tselem's stated goals are "to document
and educate the Israeli public and policymakers about human rights
violations in the Occupied Territories, combat the phenomenon of
denial prevalent among the Israeli public, and help create a human
rights culture in Israel" with the primary objective being "to change
Israeli policy in the Occupied Territories and ensure that its
government, which rules the Occupied Territories, protects the human
rights of residents there and complies with its obligations under
international law."[1]

The NGO's key founders were:

Dr Daphna Golan-Agnon (academic and founding director of feminist
peace group Bat Shalom)
David Zucker (Knesset member for the Ratz party, one of the founders
of Peace Now movement)
Haim Oron (Knesset member for the Mapam party, one of the founders of
Peace Now movement)
Zehava Gal-On (Ratz party activist and future Knesset member for the
Meretz party formed through the merger of Ratz and Mapam)
Avigdor Feldman (civil liberties lawyer)
Dr Edy Kaufman (academic and civil liberties activist)

B'Tselem investigates in a number of areas related to the conflict. In
particular the following:

The accountability of police and military forces in the territories.
[7]

The use of administrative punishment.

The continued use of torture during interrogations, particularly by
the GSS.

The illegal policy of house demolition, as a form of collective
punishment, which is often justified for alleged military purposes.

Inequalities in the planning and building procedures which
discriminate against Palestinians Israeli-Arabs.

The legal status of residents of East Jerusalem.

The path and effects of the Israeli West Bank barrier and its legal
status.

Problems related to family unification and child registration.

Neglect of infrastructure and services.

Illegal Israeli settlements and the extreme closures placed upon the
Palestinian population of Hebron.

Breaches of international human rights law.

The water crisis in Palestinian areas.

Family separation.

Restrictions on movement, such as checkpoints roads, curfew and the
effect these have on the economy and medical treatment.

Israeli settlement land expropriation, settler violence and attacks on
Israeli civilians by Palestinian militants.

Gaza Strip - The scope of Israeli control, economic and social
decline, sonic booms, access restrictions, the firing of Qassam
rockets.

Use of force - beating and abuse, use of firearms and human shields.

Violations by Palestinians - attacks on civilians, harm to suspected
collaborators, death penalty in the Palestinian Authority.

Rights of workers from the territories.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

B'Tselem board members are:[8]

Co-chairs:
David Kretzmer, Professor of Law, Faculty of Law and School of Public
Policy, Hebrew University.
Gila Svirsky, Co-founder of Coalition of Women for a Just Peace.
Neta Amar: Lawyer, Legal Advisor for IHL Project, Diakonia and Staff
Attorney for Rabbis for Human Rights.
Anat Biletzki: Professor of Philosophy, Tel-Aviv University.
Orna Ben-Naftaly: Head of the Law and Culture Division and the
International Law Division, the Law School, the College of Management
Academic Studies.
Menachem Fisch: Professor of the History and Philosophy of Science,
Tel-Aviv University and Senior Fellow, Shalom Hartman Institute.
Tamar Hermann: Dean of Academic Studies, the Open University of
Israel, and Senior Research Fellow, the Israel Democracy Institute.
Amnon Kapeliouk: Journalist, Le Monde Diplomatique (Haaretz named
A.Kapeliouk as one of the founders of B'Tselem[9]).
Peretz Kidron: Journalist and Translator.
Menachem Klein: Lecturer in Political Science, Bar Ilan University.
Victor Lederfarb: Financial Administrator, the Association for Civil
Rights in Israel.
David Neuhaus: Jesuit Priest, Reverend, Lecturer in Religious Studies
at Bethlehem University and Seminary of the Holy Land in Beit Jala.
Danny Rubinstein: Journalist, Ha'aretz Newspaper.
Alla Shainskaya: Senior Staff Scientist, Weizmann Institute of
Science.
Ronny Talmor: Author and editor.
Oren Yiftachel: professor of political geography and urban planning,
Ben-Gurion University of the Negev.
Rayef Zreik: Co-founder of Adalah, The Legal Center for Arab Minority
Rights in Israel, Lecturer at the Faculty of Law, Tel-Aviv University.
Board members have changed over the past 10 years. Four board members
from 1998 remain on the board in 2008.[10][11]



B'Tselem is independent and is funded by contributions from
foundations in Europe, Israel and North America that support human
rights activity, by private individuals in Israel and abroad, and by
the governments of some EU countries and the European Commission.[14]

According to B'Tselem, their donors include:[14]

British Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Christian Aid (UK)
Commission of the European Communities - 99,717 € per year (2007) [15]
DanChurchAid (Denmark)
Diakonia (Sweden)
Development Corporation Ireland
EED (Church Development Service, Germany)
Federal Department of Foreign Affairs of Switzerland
Ford Foundation (USA)
Foundation for Middle East Peace
ICCO (Interchurch Organisation for Development Co-operation,
Netherlands)
International Commission of Jurists, Swedish Section
Naomi and Nehemiah Cohen Foundation
New Israel Fund (Israel)
Norwegian Foreign Ministry
Shefa Fund
SIVMO (Netherlands)
Stichting Het Solidariteitsfonds (Netherlands)
Trócaire (Ireland)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btselem

Se dog at få styr på dine facts?

>
> --
> Si vis pacem - para bellum-

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