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Det er lige kommet frem at halvdelen af de engelske moskeer er styret af den
muslimske deobandi-skole inden for islam.

Her er lidt om deobandiernes tanker om jihad, noget som vore lokale
apologeter - fx CRL, AHW og Vadmand - med fordel kan kaste et blik på.

Fra The Times:

"One of the world’s most respected Deobandi scholars believes that
aggressive military jihad should be waged by Muslims “to establish the
supremacy of Islam” worldwide.

Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani argues that Muslims should live peacefully in
countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam,
only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.

His views explode the myth that the creed of offensive, expansionist jihad
represents a distortion of traditional Islamic thinking.

(Hele islams historie er historien om ekspansionistisk jihad, - naturligvis,
og kun selvblinde mennesker kan bilde sig selv andet ind)

Mr Usmani, 64, sat for 20 years as a Sharia judge in Pakistan’s Supreme
Court. He is an adviser to several global financial institutions and a
regular visitor to Britain. Polite and softly spoken, he revealed to The
Times a detailed knowledge of world events and his words, for the most part,
were balanced and considered.

He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire nonMuslim world was
intent on destroying Islam. Yet this is a man who, in his published work,
argues the case for Muslims to wage an expansionist war against nonMuslim
lands.

Mr Usmani’s justification for aggressive military jihad as a means of
establishing global Islamic supremacy is revealed at the climax of his book,
Islam and Modernism. The work is a polemic against Islamic modernists who
seek to convert the entire Koran into “a poetic and metaphorical book”
because, he says, they have been bewitched by Western culture and ideology.

The final chapter delivers a rebuke to those who believe that only defensive
jihad (fighting to defend a Muslim land that is under attack or occupation)
is permissible in Islam. He refutes the suggestion that jihad is unlawful
against a nonMuslim state that freely permits the preaching of Islam.

For Mr Usmani, “the question is whether aggressive battle is by itself
commendable or not”. “If it is, why should the Muslims stop simply because
territorial expansion in these days is regarded as bad? And if it is not
commendable, but deplorable, why did Islam not stop it in the past?”

He answers his own question thus: “Even in those days . . . aggressive
jihads were waged . . . because it was truly commendable for establishing
the grandeur of the religion of Allah.”

(Naturligvis, det ved enhver som bare kastet et blik på islams historie)

These words are not the product of a radical extremist. They come from the
pen of one of the most acclaimed scholars in the Deobandi tradition.

Mr Usmani told The Times that Islam and Modernism was an English translation
of his original Urdu book, “which at times gives a connotation different
from the original”.

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"Knud Larsen" <mafishmaskela@yahoo.invalid> skrev i en meddelelse
news:46e67da9$0$21928$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...
> Det er lige kommet frem at halvdelen af de engelske moskeer er styret af
> den muslimske deobandi-skole inden for islam.
>
> Her er lidt om deobandiernes tanker om jihad, noget som vore lokale
> apologeter - fx CRL, AHW og Vadmand - med fordel kan kaste et blik på.
>
> Fra The Times:
>
> "One of the world's most respected Deobandi scholars believes that
> aggressive military jihad should be waged by Muslims "to establish the
> supremacy of Islam" worldwide.
>
> Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani argues that Muslims should live peacefully in
> countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam,
> only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.
>
>
Det er jeg sikker på, at de fleste af os HAR regnet ud!
De venter på det rette tidspunkt, og så slår de til.
Enhver, der mener noget andet er totalt naive!

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Pernille wrote:
> "Knud Larsen" <mafishmaskela@yahoo.invalid> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:46e67da9$0$21928$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...
>> Det er lige kommet frem at halvdelen af de engelske moskeer er
>> styret af den muslimske deobandi-skole inden for islam.
>>
>> Her er lidt om deobandiernes tanker om jihad, noget som vore lokale
>> apologeter - fx CRL, AHW og Vadmand - med fordel kan kaste et blik
>> på. Fra The Times:
>>
>> "One of the world's most respected Deobandi scholars believes that
>> aggressive military jihad should be waged by Muslims "to establish
>> the supremacy of Islam" worldwide.
>>
>> Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani argues that Muslims should live
>> peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom
>> to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in
>> battle.
> Det er jeg sikker på, at de fleste af os HAR regnet ud!
> De venter på det rette tidspunkt, og så slår de til.
> Enhver, der mener noget andet er totalt naive!

Så er jeg totalt naiv!

Kun en lille del af muslimerne tænker i de baner, men det der ER interessant
er at et større del af imamerne sikkert gør det.

Knap halvdelen af de engelske muslimer ser gerne sharia indført for dem
selv.

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>
> Knap halvdelen af de engelske muslimer ser gerne sharia indført for dem
> selv.
>
>

Gad vide om det skyldes at ca. halvdelen af dem er mænd?

- cep

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Claus E. Petersen wrote:
>> Knap halvdelen af de engelske muslimer ser gerne sharia indført for
>> dem selv.
>>
>>
>
> Gad vide om det skyldes at ca. halvdelen af dem er mænd?

Ja, mon ikke de fleste er mænd, men der findes jo også mange kvinder som går
ind for selvundertrykkelse, ellers kan de ikke rigtig tro på Allahs bog, -
og på at de kommer i himlen.