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Flag i Tyskland og i England
Fra : Knud Larsen


Dato : 06-06-06 09:58

Der er interessante aspekter i hvordan man bruger flag i de to EU-lande.

Iflg en muslimsk hjemmeside sker der dette i England:

Several British Government Departments have been told to drop the British
flag from their official forms due to "religious considerations". Some have
even been told to abstain from flying the flag where it is not necessary.

This is according to a report in the Sun newspaper that appeared recently.
The banning of the British flag is reportedly made by the Government to
reconcile with Britain's large and growing Muslim community who might find
the cross on the flag offensive.

The red cross on the British flag traces its origin to the time of the
Crusades when English soldiers were on a killing spree of Muslims, including
women and children.

Private companies such as cable companies NTL, and even statutory boards
such as the Drivers and Vehicles Licensing Agency has been told to not
display the flag in any form.


Altså, væk med det britiske flag fra så mange steder som muligt
(naturligvis)


Og så en lille rapport af Muqtedar Khan, som skriver i mange tidsskrifter
rundt omkring i verden:

Berlin May 23, 2006.

We entered the mosque through a large iron gate closely watched by a score
of Turkish men. Unlike most architecturally interesting buildings in Berlin
which are open and easily accessible, this mosque which is both majestic and
grand, is surrounded by a high wall and is accessible only through iron
gates. I was in Berlin for a conference organized by the American Institute
for Contemporary German Studies and one of their scholars and a Berlin
Parliamentarian kindly volunteered to show me around Berlin.

As we approached the grand mosque, the Berlin Parliamentarian remarked,
“notice the Turkish flag on the mosque, do you see a German flag anywhere?”

--------

As I looked at the mosque with its Turkish flag flying proudly, the high
walls, the iron gates and the stoic faces, I suddenly realized that this was
not a mosque, this was a sort of embassy, a foreign enclave, an extention of
Turkish sovereignty in the heart of Germany. In the U.S. one may
occasionally find a US flag in a mosque, but never a flag of a foreign
country. The only mosque that has foreign flags is the Islamic Center in
Washington DC which was established by diplomats from Muslim countries.

---------

With Islamophobia on the rise in most western countries, grand displays of
Islamic religiosity – the mosque is indeed fabulous – combined with overt,
in your face displays of allegiance to foreign nations can only be described
as spectacularly stupid.

--------

Muslims who live as minorities in the west or anywhere else, must
understand that their demand for tolerance for religious and cultural
differences is a just cause. But they must align their political and
economic interests with those of their neighbors [whose acceptance they
seek] and not with those who live in foreign lands.

There is room for Islam in America and Germany. We can and we will build
bigger and more spectacular mosques in the West, but there is no place for
Saudi flags, or Turkish or Pakistani flags in Western mosques. They have
their embassies and that is enough. They should not be allowed to use our
mosques.
......


M. A. Muqtedar Khan is Assistant Professor in the Department of Political
Science and International Relations at University of Delaware. He is also a
Nonresident Fellow of the Saban Center at Brookings Institution. His website
is www.ijtihad.org.



Er det ikke endnu et eksempel på den skæve vægtning man meget ofte finder i
forhold til islam og Vesten?









 
 
Jim (06-06-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Jim


Dato : 06-06-06 10:03

"Knud Larsen" <larsensknud@yahoo.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:448543b1$0$60784$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...
> This is according to a report in the Sun newspaper that appeared recently.
> The banning of the British flag is reportedly made by the Government to
> reconcile with Britain's large and growing Muslim community who might find
> the cross on the flag offensive.
>
Mon ikke man burde forbyde muslimer.
Jeg finder deres tilstedeværelse offensive.

J.



Jan Bang Jensby (06-06-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Jan Bang Jensby


Dato : 06-06-06 10:14


"Knud Larsen" skrev
>
> Altså, væk med det britiske flag fra så mange steder som muligt
> (naturligvis)
>
>

Nej - det engelske flag!

- Jensby



Jim (06-06-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Jim


Dato : 06-06-06 10:37

"Jan Bang Jensby" <jbjFJERN@FJERNdatea.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:44854760$0$38692$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk...
>
> "Knud Larsen" skrev
>>
>> Altså, væk med det britiske flag fra så mange steder som muligt
>> (naturligvis)
>>
>>
>
> Nej - det engelske flag!
>
Nej, det britiske.
Det engelske flag er bare et rødt kors på hvid dug.
Men det vil de nok også have væk.



Jan Bang Jensby (06-06-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Jan Bang Jensby


Dato : 06-06-06 10:44


"Jim" skrev

> Nej, det britiske.
> Det engelske flag er bare et rødt kors på hvid dug.
> Men det vil de nok også have væk.

Undskyld! Jeg fokuserede på det røde kors - men det er der jo sådan set også
i det britiske flag.

- Jensby



Jim (06-06-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Jim


Dato : 06-06-06 10:50

"Jan Bang Jensby" <jbjFJERN@FJERNdatea.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:44854e75$0$38710$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk...
>
> "Jim" skrev
>
>> Nej, det britiske.
>> Det engelske flag er bare et rødt kors på hvid dug.
>> Men det vil de nok også have væk.
>
> Undskyld! Jeg fokuserede på det røde kors - men det er der jo sådan set
> også i det britiske flag.
>
Ja, man glemmer, at det britiske dækker en del..
Jeg har for nylig haft en del samtaler med englændere, som foretrækker at
blive kaldt for englændere og ser det som en fornærmelse at blive betegnet
som brite.
Det samme gør skotter, der vil betegnes som skotter og ikke briter, så de
ikke slås i hardkorn med englændere.



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