""Per Rønne"" <per@RQNNE.invalid> wrote in message
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>I dagens Jerusalem Post kan man se at en pakistansk general oprordrer
> Iran til at tage Israel som gidsel:
>
>> The Jerusalem Post Internet Edition
>>
>> Pakistani general to Iran: Take Israel hostage if attacked
>> Associated
>> Press, THE JERUSALEM POST May. 13, 2006
>>
>> Pakistan's former army chief says Iranian officials came to him for
>> advice
>> on heading off an attack on their nuclear facilities, and he in
>> effect
>> advised them to take a hostage - Israel.
>>
>> Retired Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg said he suggested their government
>> "make it
>> clear that if anything happens to Iran, if anyone attacks it - it
>> doesn't
>> matter who it is or how it is attacked - that Iran's answer will be
>> to hit
>> Israel; the only target will be Israel."
>
> Ja, den jødiske stat er åbenbart noget der kan hades, og det ikke
> blot i
> Europas venstreorienterede miljøer.
>
>> Since Beg spoke in an interview with The Associated Press, echoes
>> of his
>> thinking have been heard in Iran, though whether they result
>> directly from
>> his advice isn't known.
>>
>> Mohammad Ebrahim Dehghani, an Iranian Revolutionary Guards
>> commander, was
>> quoted last week as saying that if "America does make any mischief,
>> the
>> first place we target will be Israel." The threat was disavowed the
>> next
>> day by Brig. Gen. Alireza Afshar, deputy to the chief of Iran's
>> military
>> staff, who said it was Dehghani's "personal view and has no
>> validity as
>> far as the Iranian military officials are concerned."
>
> Med den attitude er der vel ingen grund for Israel til /ikke/ at gå
> med
> i et eventuelt amerikansk angreb på Iran?
>
> Et angreb man vel i et eller andet omfang må forvente, når først det
> amerikanske midtvejsvalg er overstået.
>
>> And on Tuesday, Israel's vice premier, Shimon Peres, warned that
>> "Those
>> who threaten to destroy are in danger of being destroyed."
>
> Hvilket betyder at Israel truer med at svare igen med atomvåben.
>
>> In the AP interview that took place several weeks before these
>> threats
>> were exchanged, General Beg said a delegation from the Iranian
>> Embassy in
>> Pakistan had come to his office in January, seeking advice as
>> Western
>> pressure mounted on Iran to abandon its nuclear effort. Beg said he
>> offered lessons learned from his experience dealing with India's
>> nuclear
>> threat.
>>
>> He said he told the Iranians, whom he did not identify, that
>> Pakistan had
>> suspected India of collaborating with Israel in planning an attack
>> on its
>> nuclear facilities. By then, Pakistan had the bomb too. But both
>> countries
>> had adopted a strategy of ambiguity, he said, and Pakistan sent an
>> emissary to India to warn that no matter who attacked it, Pakistan
>> would
>> retaliate against India.
>>
>> "We told India frankly that this is the threat we perceive and this
>> is the
>> action we are taking and the action we will take. It was a real
>> deterrent," he recalled telling the Iranians.
>>
>> He said he also advised them to "attempt to degrade the defense
>> systems of
>> Israel," harass it through the Hamas government of the Palestinian
>> Authority and the Hezbollah movement in Lebanon, and put
>> second-strike
>> nuclear weapons on submarines.
>
> Altså: Iran skal angribe Israel med /atomvåben/. Man kan vel så ikke
> undgå at overveje, om ikke Israel overvejer et præventivt angreb for
> at
> udslette Irans atomvåben-program først. Som man i sin tid gjorde med
> Iraks tilsvarende program.
>
>> Beg also detailed nearly 20 years of Iranian approaches to obtain
>> conventional arms and then technology for nuclear weapons. He
>> described an
>> Iranian visit in 1990, when he was army chief of staff.
>>
>> "They didn't want the technology. They asked: 'Can we have a bomb?'
>> My
>> answer was: By all means you can have it but you must make it
>> yourself.
>> Nobody gave it to us."
>>
>> Although Beg insisted his government never gave Iran nuclear
>> weapons,
>> Pakistan now acknowledges that Khan sold Iran centrifuges to
>> produce
>> weapons-grade uranium, though without his government's knowledge.
>>
>> In a televised confession Khan insisted he acted without
>> authorization in
>> selling nuclear technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea, saying
>> the
>> proliferation took place between 1989 and 2000.
>
> Ikke desto mindre bliver han til stadighed beskyttet af Pakistans
> regering.
>
>> Beg became army chief of staff in 1988, a year after Pakistan
>> confirmed
>> CIA estimates that it had nuclear weapons capability. He served
>> until 1991
>> and now runs his own think tank. He speaks freely and in detail
>> about the
>> nuclear issue, but many critical blank spots remain and the subject
>> remains one of great sensitivity, clouded by revelations in 2004
>> that A.
>> Q. Khan, who pioneered Pakistan's nuclear bomb, sold nuclear
>> technology to
>> Iran, Libya and North Korea.
>>
>> Khan has been pardoned by President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, and
>> Pakistan
>> has refused to hand him over to the United States or the U.N.
>> nuclear
>> watchdog agency for questioning.
>
> Ja, uhyre mistænkeligt.
>
>> According to Beg, Iran first sent emissaries to Pakistan in the
>> latter
>> years of its 1980-88 war with Iraq with a shopping list worth
>> billions of
>> dollars, mostly for spare parts for its air force. It offered in
>> return to
>> underwrite the development plan of Gen. Zia-ul Haq, then Pakistan's
>> ruler.
>>
>> "Gen. Zia did not agree," he said.
>>
>> Much of what Beg says cannot be independently confirmed, and the
>> UN's
>> International Atomic Energy Agency did not respond to repeated
>> requests
>> for comment on Beg's version of events.
>>
>> This article can also be read at
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> %2FJPArticle%2FShowFull>
>
> Ja, jeg tror efterhånden ikke at vi kan undgå et amerikansk angreb
> på
> Iran, med det formål at ødelægge landets atom-option. Der bliver
> ikke
> tale om en invasion, men om at amerikanerne, eventuelt med israelsk
> hjælp, smider bomber mod disse faciliteter, bomber som kan trænge en
> halv kilometer ned gennem undergrunden. Samt rettet mod hjem og
> andre
> tilholdssteder for de fysikere, der har den ekspertise der gør dem i
> stand til at udvikle våbene.
Hvor er israeler dog selvhadende at de tillader muslimer at bo i deres
land.
De er mere jødehadende end nogen historierevisionist - og de fleste af
disse er kun optaget at videnskabeligt problem og helt uden modvilje
mod nogen etnisk gruppe.
Israel inviterer til krig ved ikke at gøre den fornuftige mur færdig
og administrere passage gennem den helt stringent.
Danmark bør hjælpe at bombe Iran så længe de har akraft, og hvis ikke
missil-produktion kan rammes så er der langt mere grund til at ramme
civile end der var for allierede i WW2.