Bent Jensen wrote:
> Allan Riise skrev ...
>
>> Det er moralsk forkert, når man torturer de mennesker man ville redde
>> fra tortur, og så endda i Saddams egne gamle tortur fængsler,
>> samtidigt med at man har skyggefanger, der transporteres rundt, så
>> Røde kors ikke kan interviewe dem, en klar tilsidesættelse af
>> Génevekonventionen.
>
> De pågældende nyder næppe beskyttelse under krigsfangekonventionen, da
> der nok er tale om franc tireurs. Sådanne har Røde Kors ikke adgang
> til.
>
Om f.eks ranc tiruers
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Soldiers who break specific provisions of the laws of war lose the
protections and status afforded as prisoners of war but only after facing a
"competent tribunal" (GC III Art 5). At that point they become an unlawful
combatant but they must still be "treated with humanity and, in case of
trial, shall not be deprived of the rights of fair and regular trial",
because they are still covered by GC IV Art 5. For example, in World War II
during the Battle of the Bulge, German SS troops put on American uniforms
and impersonated American troops in order to surprise and kill American
soldiers behind their own lines. Some of these Germans were captured and
immediately executed even though they had surrendered.
Spies and terrorists are only protected by the laws of war if the power
which holds them is in a state of armed conflict or war and until they are
found to be an unlawful combatant. Depending on the circumstances, they may
be subject to civilian law or military tribunal for their acts and in
practice have been subjected to torture and/or execution. The laws of war
neither approve nor condemn such acts, which fall outside their scope.
Countries that have signed the UN Convention Against Torture have committed
themselves not to use torture on anyone for any reason.
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Da USA må siges i høj grad, stadig at være i en militær konflikt, så er de
per se, krigsfanger, især da de ikke har været for en domstol, eller for et
tribunal!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------United States of America"The United States declares, pursuant to article 21, paragraph 1, of theConvention, that it recognizes the competence of the Committee againstTorture to receive and consider communications to the effect that a StateParty claims that another State Party is not fulfilling its obligationsunder the Convention. It is the understanding of the United States that,pursuant to the above-mentioned article, such communications shall beaccepted and processed only if they come from a State Party which has made asimilar declaration."----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Da man ikke ved hvem de har i disse skyggefængsler, om det er fra lande derhar underskrevet Konventionen imod tortur, og da Iraq, vel skal ses som enDemokratisk republik, så kan de ikke torturere fok.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------After a conflict has ended, persons who have committed any breach of thelaws of war, and especially atrocities, may be held individually accountablefor war crimes through process of law.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Men *ikke* Amerikanere, der sætter de godt nok grænsen, det kan man jo godtforstå, når man kigger på denne konflikt.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5918-2004Dec16.html Army officials investigating the Abu Ghraib prison scandal concluded thatthe CIA had held "ghost detainees" at the prison, inmates who were notregistered or officially acknowledged, a violation of military rules.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Nu kan du vel se, at dette er ulovligt?Allan Riise--"If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.""Kapitalisme virker kun to steder, i himmelen, hvor det ikke ernødvendigt, og i helvede hvor de allerede har det.." Vær entenkonsekvent eller inkonsekvent, men aldrig begge dele samtidigt.