Do you any indications from witch part of Sweden he originated, or what
Shipping line he was hired to? If you do It is easier to direct you to a
local genealogy society in Sweden. They can often help you. It may also be
an idea to take contact with the Swedish seaman church in Brittan.
http://www.gbnw.u-net.com/
http://www.swedish-church.org.uk/
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Dan Palm
Scania, Sweden
hodd_mimer@yahoo.se
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> "Hugh Watkins" <hugh_watkins@net.dialog.dk> wrote in message
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> more from Sue
>
> Carl Jörgen Svenson
>
> any Swedish crew lists 1907 and earlier
>
> how old would a boy be when he went to sea in those days?
>
> 12 or 14 years ? A stoker?
>
> What training ships were there in Sweden 1900 to 1907 ?
>
> Hugh W
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> On my Mother's birth certificate her father was George Svenson, Marine
Fireman M.S. Then on the baptism record, George Charles
> Svenson.
>
> I went to Southampton where the original Cr1,2 and 10 cards for the
Merchant Navy are kept. Each mariner had his own card so I found
> every Svenson, Svensson and Swenson and made notes so that I could compare
the details with my own ideas of what age, height etc he
> must have been. I found a Carl G.Svenson whose details matched what I
needed and although it gave a Dis.A. number(unique to each
> seaman) there was no matching CR1 card for him. I then tried Swanson and
there he was, named as Charles Swanson, but the Dis.A.
> number was the same as was his description. ( So George Charles became
Carl G.!) From this I found the number of the ship he was on
> in 1919 and also a photograph! I think he was named Charles Swanson by the
clerk filling in the card as its the nearest English
> spelling.
>
> To cut a very long story short I obtained the crew list from Newfoundland
and as each list gives the crew members previous ship I
> got back to 1917.
>
> Then on another card where he was named Carl G.Svenson (still same unique
number) I found the ship he was on in 1914 and managed by
> obtaining crew lists to get back to 1907.
>
> The points that make me certain that this is the right man are:
>
> 1 He always sailed on British ships (from 1907 at least) and they always
were connected to or sailed in the Bristol Channel.
>
> 2. I grovelled to the Registrars Office in Newport and they sent me a
photocopy of the signature on the original birth certificate
> which is a very good match for his signatures on the crew lists.
>
> 3. On the birth cert. he signs Svenson with one "S" in the middle and all
the crew list signatures do too. (although all Swedish
> advice tells me it would be 2 "S's" !
>
> 4. Bit of a long shot, but my mother's middle name was Mabel, the last
ship I found him on was the Maple Branch.
>
> I know all this is very hypothetical, but not having any relatives left to
ask I have to do this alone and its so frustrating not
> being able to find your own grandfather!
>
> All my mother was told by her mother was that he was Swedish and that he
had wanted them to go back to Sweden with him but my
> grandmother's father wouldn't allow it!
>
>
>